Ordered these 2 times and either the dimensions need to be clarified or the advertising changed. These are not 4" wide. If you are just needing a large binder they are great but I need the 4 inches at the spine and these are only 3 1/4"-3 1/2". Definitely not 4". I even measured the D-ring itself and it is not 4". Buyer be aware of specifics
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