I have owned many pairs of Salomon shoes over the past 15 years; from trail running to boots. Pros: well made, good sole, space in the toe box, looks good. Cons: Loose heel that isn't very adjustable with this lacing system, a little more than other Salomon's I've had (all were 12's). Overall I really want to like these shoes but they just didn't fit me. Can't find the right fit, not as comfortable as other Salomons I've had.