These jeans are a good compromise between price and quality. They tend to be a bit big (for me) and a bit long (I ordered 34/33 and they feel generous), but they are perfectly usable. The hip pads feel comfortable. Knee pads are more likely to sit slightly inward (medially) than forward or outward (lateral). But they fit quite well and are higher in the waist than my previous pair from another seller (no longer available). They have more doubling inside than my previous pair, which is good. Why is it important? Well, my last pair of lined jeans recently saved most of my skin as I gracefully skirted the right hand side sweeper at about 35 mph and reached out the hand of God and slammed myself onto the sidewalk. Honestly - no warning, no gravel, no animals running forward, just *BAM* - down! It shook me badly, but between the helmet, leather jacket, gloves, boots and lined jeans, I and most of my fur are still here to tell the story. (Still healing - but could be a lot worse!) These jeans appear to be made just as well or maybe better than the previous one. Kids, wear your gear - it will save your pathetic skin. Ask me how I know! ;-)
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