Unfortunately I bought these but I didn't bother to install them. I wasn't paying attention, and where I wanted to, I have a stone apron that almost reaches the bottom of the kitchen cabinet. So I planned to install thin pieces of wood behind it before installing it. I never got to them, they were in my garage. I lost my box and accessories - now they are lying. I'll probably give them away. I will say it. I tested them in my garage just to see how strong they are and even got a hammer stuck to them. So it's very strong. In all of this, I keep my Wรผsthof knives (about 30 years old) in the basement and only use cheap ceramic knives until I figure out what I want to do. I just have to get this big knife block off the counter that's taking up space.
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