While the length and overall fit of these pants are spot on, my son points out that the "double knee" seam falls right on his knee, so when he kneels in church ( he servant) is very uncomfortable. Also note that the "double knee" reinforcement is on the outside of the pants and not on the inside of the pants like many other reinforced pants. It's a bit painful to see, at least for our purposes (he needs dress pants, and those pants look like cargo pants on the front).
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