The smaller handle is completely useless. It's the only one of the two pens designed for the thinnest tip, but it's impossible to keep the included tip or any other crow's tip from falling out. Not too bad, but other pens don't hold ink well and smudge. I've been hatching and inking for decades, so I know how to use different nibs, how to apply ink, and how nibs are supposed to work. but these are not. I'm sure some pins and nibs work well in this manufacturer's kits, but the quality and care in manufacturing is patchy. Yu may or may not get a useful set. This is shooting shit and not worth wasting money and time on a game like this.
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