Dude, they're LONG. So long that without a bike they could pass for football pajamas. I can easily trip over them. I would never be able to wear them casual as I would need to tuck a good 4-5 inches in. fit, not relaxed and definitely not skinny (thank goodness) which could benefit from a little cut at the bottom of the boot PLUS they fit the bike perfectly (the Triumph Tigers in my case). , no bottlenecks, no need to pull them up or down to hide the plumber's crack. Very comfortable in driving position. I wanted a pair of jeans with pockets to protect the hips and knees, which they do because I'm tired of wearing leather. it stuck to me in half an hour once the temp is over 70. I have soft armor and I hardly know they're there. It takes a bit of fiddling to get the knee brace in place; I can add velcro to the pads and Kevlar liners in the right places gives confidence to the ride too. Feringi too.
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