Me and my family have used these filters several times over the years . I liked them and bought 700 pieces for stockings and personal use. Using the same coffee as the previous filters, the coffee is so weak that it is undrinkable. I've tried packing coffee with different grinds (I have a Rancilio grinder) but to no avail. The material must be thinner and more loosely woven to cause this disparity in coffee drinkability. I will definitely not be buying them again and will have to throw away the rest as it's not worth the hassle of sending them back. I rated them D as they might appeal to people who like very weak coffee. You are worthless to me and other family members feel the same way.
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