Received these today and I felt like an OJ in a courtroom trying to put a glove on. I have had several pairs of Joe Rocket Phoenix 4.0 Large shoes and I love them and they all fit perfectly. These Phoenix 5.1s fit like Mittens so I'm counting on the next ones getting the XL, I expect they will expand in the next few weeks as they break in but we'll see. Actually I wish I had bought the 4.0 again because I love these gloves, they stand up to the heat well, are breathable and great in the phoenix summer. But who would have thought that they could change so much in size between two consecutive models. Update in 2 weeks - after about 5-10 rides they have stretched to fit the 4.0 and I think they have better airflow than the 4.0s. I'm glad I didn't send them back.
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