I use them for hard training and racing. I ordered two pairs of these base layers and for the price I can't imagine how they could be any better. I have a more expensive base coat but I always choose it. Please note that the newer version of this shoe has no tag, which is a welcome change. The fit is as expected, although we serious cyclists tend to view anything but tight leather as loose, so bear that in mind. I expect the base coat to be tight. I have a 39" chest and 31" waist and tried small first (cyclists here again). The midsection and waist were where I preferred, but the bodice was a bit tight. I've since gone down to a medium size and although I sometimes have bumps down the middle, it fits very well. They last a long time, but that's preferable for my use. Unfortunately, if someone asks me who makes this base coat, I don't know what to say. My best efforts ended up sticking my tongue between my lips and blowing out a raspberry. Seriously, there is no other way to say it.
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