These socks are just great! By that I mean the fit is good, the stretch is good, they hold up well, but the REALLY BAD thing is that they are very poorly finished on the inside. I mean it's a real challenge to even get your toes in the sock all the way to the end. There are numerous threads on the inside of the socks that stick to the toes and make it almost impossible to put the socks on. Whoever makes these socks has terrible quality control, VERY BAD!