My wife did not care for these as Calligraphy pens, finding them choppy with tips that are too unyielding to either perform or learn the required strokes well. But as markers, albeit with an odd shaped tip, they are fine. Of course, for me, it seems a premium cost to pay for calligraphy tools and only get fancy marker. I say 2, she says 4, we settled on a 3 star rating.
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