I like these headphones. Works well, convenient. I use them for swimming. only a few times 1) Turn the volume all the way down. 2) Keep them outside of your swim cap and use google goggles to keep them in place. Why I recommend it, well if you twist them properly and have them under your swim cap you will only hear the bass. It will sound like an HS kid who got a new stereo and turned it on so loud that windows in buildings rattled as they drove by. Well, your head is the window and headphones can give you the worst headaches/migraines, especially if you've had a few drinks before using them. I can't comment on how they perform out of the water as that's all I use them for.
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