I only bought this tie to have a festive or seasonal tie so it's not the end of the world, quality is iffy but thought I'd throw it out there outside. The tie looks very thin, there is very little fabric in it. My biggest issue is that it's just a patterned piece of fabric cut from a tie and barely sewn on at the back. Again, that's fine for my purposes, but not worth the price of a decent tie. But there is a nice pattern.