Maybe someone will help. A few words about these pants: Firstly, I found that the size depends on the color. I got 4 points in some pants and 6 in others. Longs were too long. Second, these are hippie pants, meaning if you have large hips they will fit you correctly, but if you have narrow hips there will be an unsightly bulge of fabric under the hip pocket opening. A bit sad, but I really didn't want jeans, so I broke the sewing machine. With a little care, you can slim down the hips by drawing a new line to the leg below the pocket opening. Third, the sticker they put on the pant leg, whatever size it is, leaves a sticky residue that required treatment and was not removed by machine washing. And finally, the front and back pockets are flat. I plan to extend it. But it's a shame that clothing manufacturers can't accept that women need FULL SIZE bags. All these pants help my ramshackle wardrobe, but they're just a stepping stone to better pants. I weigh 116 pounds and am 5 feet 6.5 inches tall.
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