before that I tried Thrustmaster (I don’t know the model), which was determined only in obscure2 (the buttons could not be configured - maybe because of the hands of the curves) and silent hill 2. Thrustmaster was not determined (did not react in any way, although I tried to stick it into different usb connectors ) nfs SHIFT, dirt 2, and Xbox was determined immediately and works perfectly. the price is quite adequate (took for 1300)