Initially was OK with these shorts, but the more I wore them, the less I liked them. As recommended, you should order them one size larger than your usual size. Doing that, the waste size was fine. But I realized two problems. The material was heavier than I wanted, living in Florida. Also, they are just too darn long and look "dorky" as a result. If the material was lighter they would probably be OK for just knocking around the house but they just look too odd to wear out and about. They reach down to the knee level. I realize that because of these factors I probably won't use them as planned and will be returning them to ebay.