I needed a black tie for an event. This tie is excellent. Real silk. Nice woven texture. Not shiny. Same width as my Hermes ties. I am 5’10”. My shirts have 16-1/2 inch neck. I tie my ties in a tight small double Windsor knot, down to the belt buckle (several good videos on YouTube will show you how.) But this tie is not going to work for everyone. It’s thick, the silk is thick, the lining is thick. And it’s not as long as my Hermes ties, so one star off. But at 1/20th the price I am willing to overlook a few inches missing on the short end. I bought six other colors, and an extra black. Definitely worth a try, unless you’re over about 6-2.