I ordered both Chunky and Master. Master gives loose waves and Chunky is reminiscent of the perm I did in the 80's. Both are not bad. Rolled up, it added about four inches to my length. About ten to fifteen minutes per curl with each stick. You can definitely feel the oil penetrate your hair. I'm letting my gray hair grow out so sorry for the two tone hair! The difference between both sticks in the pictures.
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