I had about ten pairs of 410v5 and 410v6. Fives were great, sixes were a little less valuable but still great. These 7th iterations are garbage. Other pairs can be used as walking shoes while these are difficult to reach to the ankle. I mean you can wear very low cut socks and still see the damn socks. I don't wear socks that low, but I want to emphasize how flat the heel of these shoes is. Avoid this iteration and try to find 410v6 if possible. Also, I've always worn 11.5 4E on other versions. In this shitty version it's tight. Order 0.5 size up if you want those crappy shoes.
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