I was pleasantly surprised that the Deer Stag loafers I bought were as good as my ECCO loafers , shoes were new. I looked at the ECCO line and somehow ended up with Deer Stag. The reindeer bucks were smaller than comparable ECCO moccasins. When the shoes arrived I was again pleasantly surprised by the look and fit of the Deer Stag Loafers. I have worn them twice and they are comfortable with great arch support. My ECCO moccasins have served me well, but I'm not good with shoes. I will continue to wear ECCO but only for lounging and not for more formal occasions.