Y R all clothes made for tall skinny people? I got the size 32. I just ordered the size 30. Well see how they are. So far what strikes me is the size of the pockets! The coin pocket is huge and the long right pocket is deep as well. AND there is a long/big left pocket also. Not all Carpenter's style pants have that. My Samsung A20 fits easily. I didn't expect it. (Update 6-4-21) Looks like I am a size 31. 32 needs a belt on me, and 30 is tight around my massive Quads! (Quadzilla!) (Update 12-8-21, I finally found pants I like and now they "unavailable" Gawd dammit!
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