I'm sorry I haven't tried these I have them received first because i would return them. They are both deformed. When I roll paint on it it doesn't roll out in the middle and when I try to spread the paint there are very bad lines on the edges of both and the paint doesn't come off in the middle even when I really have one light touch still doesn't do it, or a hard touch does, but then I actually have lines on the outside. I would just send them back
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