When I ordered, I did not catch the word "Women's" in the title description and thought I was ordering a L for my male spouse. They are really a "L" for a WOMAN.NOT A MAN. Please be aware of the confusing description. Also, there is only one "L" to order with in case one thinks the sizes have separate distinctions for Men or Women. I wear a "L" Women's and my spouse wears a "L" Men's. They do feel comfortable.time will tell on the wear and I will keep them since I hike.
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