I initiated a return on these but went out of town. Hate losing the money but it was my fault for not getting the return back to the seller. The seller seems to be very good and I will watch for other items they sell.Why 3 stars?Very itchy fabric.The stitching and outer fabric are solid!Fit is very good and the shorts appear to be durable. I bought them for running and had to change after less than 2 minutes.Recommendation to the manufacturer. Use a smoother fabric for the internal shorts. Academy Sports has a very similar version (store brand) and they are very comfortable.