Smaller than expected. The lycra lining is a little deceptively black on black. Part of the spandex covers my knees, the short part goes up to 3/4 of the thigh. I thought they looked more like basketball shorts. I would take a size up as they are a bit tight on me. I'm 6'1" and 210" and chose a large size because my waist size corresponds to the large category in the chart. I made them work, so I think that's a little motivation to make them fit better.
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