Too bad they don't rust as much around the edges when wet and I'm not thrilled that the holders deform more often than not, BUT! Note that I gave it four stars despite that. They are the perfect size for my starlings to use as both food and water (you even bathe in your own), they are very easy to keep clean and I love that I can attach them to every part of the cage can move around (assuming there's a crossbar; I'm not sure how well they'll stay in place otherwise) to make the most of the space. My older star seems to get a little too aroused by her shiny metal - he does a lot of side pecking - but to be honest it amuses him, plus he's developed a habit of tapping a certain way when he wants to pour you water for him. bath bowl so it was fun and cute. Overall, they do a great job for a small price.
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