I made a return but left town. I hate losing money but it was my fault for not sending the refund back to the seller. The seller seems very good and I will keep an eye on other items he sells. Why 3 stars? I bought them for a burglary and they had to be replaced in less than 2 minutes. manufacturer recommendation. Use a smoother fabric for inner shorts. Academy Sports has a very similar version (own brand) and they are very comfortable.
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