I've noticed a dramatic drop in quality control on the above brands as well as a disproportionate increase in retail price. These are quality shoes with no frills. I wasn't a fan of tall boots, couldn't find a men's version without a cuff, so I had to redo mine to get the style I wanted. A very simple, no-frills looking skateboard shoe, especially after removing the easy-to-cut labels and stickers. You can't go wrong with this for the money.
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