I bought these to use during night photography to keep my hands warm and bare fingers can be used quickly if needed . They work well, but the flap is attached to the glove with poor quality stitching. After a few uses, the stitches started to unravel, and they should have come apart after a few more uses. Decided to return within the return period. If you know how to use a needle and thread and can reinforce the "loop" then this is a good deal. Just not for me.
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