I've been buying these type of boots for over 7 years, they were discontinued from the junkyard where I bought them so I ordered an item online to make sure they were a cheaper material, this item is from the ankle like that thin that it's all still so fragile. My old boots and they seem to tighten and think of all the materials if you can find them locally. I would recommend that I don't mind driving a few hours for nice boots to wear all day! I will not order again, obviously they used cheaper material for the same price!