If you order a large quantity - not as described. Bulk frames do NOT have 5x5 mat holes as described, only 4x4 (I needed 5x5). The frames are super beautiful just be prepared to be patient and maybe just provide your own mats as I ended up doing. very difficult to detach from the frame. I hope it's not toxic, the fibers are flying all over the place. I had to do a few iterations in the framing process to fix this problem. A little unexpected. However, the frame glass and back stay well in the frame after you pull out the fibers. I'd happily buy them again because the frames are a good price for good quality, but I'd rather pay a little more to not be surprised when they come next rather than mess around with static foam flakes.
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