I wish I could give 4.5 stars. I really like the Teva Mush II triggers but bought them looking for something similar but a little more durable. That's almost what I want. The Mush II foam footbed is good, but the outsole, although firmer than the Mush II, would have been ideal if made from a softer rubber like running shoe outsoles. Because they don't offer the grip I was really looking for. They will fit and look like they will last, but until now the perfect flip flops still elude me.