This is the third time I've bought them, I usually wear them around the house and even as shorts under my sweatpants when I'm running nearby errands, walking my dogs or even when I'm flying abroad as I'm more comfortable feel. 5 inches and about 202 pounds and the large one fits me perfectly and the length is above the knee but not below. I ignore washing instructions and usually tumble dry on low, the oldest I have that I've washed dozens of times. there was a tiny hole on the left calf recently, but if I had never tumble dried it I think it would be in perfect condition. The laces are sewn into the pants, but I've pulled them out on all of them since. I find them unnecessary, and it's never damaged any of the shorts I've worn for years, despite the obvious sound and feel of me pulling something out of my belt that shouldn't be pulled out.
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