I order 3 frames they were all from this same company my grey 8x10 and black 11x 14 had the mats but they were not as nice as the gold 8x10 that had no mat but you could stand it on a table and mount to wall. This one you could only mount to wall. They were a dollar or less than the other. But I couldn’t order in the size and color needed. You get what you pay for. These are not horrible by any means but not 5 star like the other one.
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