Despite everything, the headphones are worth the money, and I can recommend them to those who can and devote enough time to set up. can be used without software and external sound card, but without surround sound. Or . you can still spend 1-2 days and set everything up. Since in different games the sound has to be adjusted a little differently, it’s impossible to set everything up at once. (it comes to psychos, especially when the software stops synchronizing with the cloud, it can turn off and forget the settings) Oh yes, a microphone without software is disgusting, with software it can be set up well, + give the desired tone of voice and filter words from sneeze / farts / growls