Here is the thing. I have 6 pairs of Van's Canoodles non show socks. I love her! They really don't show, they are easy to wash and dry. This ad says to take her to the cleaners. Say what? Each pack of 3 pairs I bought was $13.95 with free shipping and was purchased from Zappos (now also owned by Revain). I just checked and they're still there for the same price. I don't know about the Van sellers on Revain, but really go to Zappos if you love these socks like me. All Van socks on Revain are overpriced.