The key chain clip hooks are nice; however I didn't read the description clearly. I may have selected the incorrect item. . .who knows. . . But I needed the hooks with the actual key ring attached, on one end, so I could attach it to pouches and then attach pouches to a notebook, via clip hook, on the other end. The D-rings doesn't open so it defeated the purpose of buying these for what I need them for. However, and again, they're really nice, appear to be sturdy and nicely made.
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