Ok, these are a great buy. They are made in China and I ordered two one for my daughter and one for my son so it took me a bit to figure out their size numbering system it just didn't say 8 and 6 on them but besides that they are great coats. They are perfect for cold winter days they are not down filled but well insulated and they run long so they will keep a good portion of the legs warm. They are not fleece lined only the hat is but they have good insulation other wise. I definitely feel comfortable with them in these the only way I'd put them in something down filled or a bit more packed would be on heavy snow windy days but for typical winter weather these will do quite nicely, they are great winter coats. They run just a tad bit small so order up a size and mind for layering but they will do nicely.
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