Don't waste your money on this item. The pants are very thin. The pockets are not big enough especially the back pockets. I can't even get my bill fold down inside the back pocket. I ordered a medium size which ran a little bit small. The back pockets have Velcro which is a to stupid idea. Who ever heard of putting Velcro on the pockets, they should have buttons or zippers. The front zipper is cheaply made. These are just a cheaply made pair of pants. Their asking to much money for what they are. Look for something else.