I took them for a computer (while for music there is an HD 650) due to the lack of a microphone in the mentioned ones. I stopped on this model after I tested it with a friend (he just compared it with HD 569). The choice fell on them primarily because of the detachable wires (I tore them a lot in life) and the strength of the structure (a similar problem associated with hooking wires and falls)), as well as volume control. They passed the test.