I think these are fun pants. I'm probably going to need to tailor them, though. The title says "men [and] women" but these are definitely men's pants; there is a lot of extra fabric in the crotch. I'll see if I can remove some for a better fit. One thing that was a pleasant surprise is that the pants have pockets! Probably the second clue that these are actually designed for men lol women's pants very rarely have such roomy pockets.