This is the first time I've used these headphones instead of an earcup headband. At first they didn't stay on my head no matter how I positioned them. After playing around with them for a few minutes, I must have pulled them apart a bit, sort of like how you lengthen headphones, and then they stayed. They keep the ears warm enough, but after excessive exercise, playing in the snow, they wear off. I used them on my son when his hat got wet and he liked them. One star deducted for inability to use if you move a lot ie. H. Skiing, snowboarding, snow fights.
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