5.11 clothing is the best quality I have found. I used to shop exclusively at LL Bean, but 5.11 clothing is as good as any I've found. I own several pairs of shorts and cargo pants as well as belts and have been wearing them for several years with no noticeable wear. My only complaint is they don't offer a 29" inseam length and I end up rolling the cuffs up an inch to keep the back end from dragging on the ground and fraying. Despite my complaint, I enthusiastically recommend 5.11 clothing.