I've been teaching art for 20 years. These paint pens are a miserable waste of money. I am making a mural, and wanted these copper paint pens for line work. They say "writes on anything". What a joke. I can not get these to work on top of latex paint to save my life. There are barely any paint in them. The paint does not flow to the nib. When you shake them (and you must to get them to flow), they drip and splatter everywhere. I got paint everywhere except on the wall I wanted to paint. Soooo annoying. I ran to the art store and got some Uni Posca. I did a line around the whole room in about five minutes with the Posca after I had done the one by this brand like four times (and ended up painting over it with acrylic because it made me so mad because it looked terrible). Please don't waste your time or money on these. Buy Posca. They are worth a few more bucks.
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