Love this idea. Stiff, for riding through the woods, technical summer trousers. They fit well and look good, love the pockets and ventilation. A big FAILURE is a material that is mainly used in the seat and pocket area. The saddle wears out and discolours just from contact with the bike seat in a 1 hour ride... Just sitting on the saddle! The same material holds water (sweat) exceptionally well. Without this fabric, the pants would be a hit, but in their current form, they don't even come close to the manufacturer's recommended retail price.
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