I really wanted to love these shoes, they are well made, excellent quality. The first 4.5" pair was the right size but undersized, the same size as her current 4" width, which she had outgrown. They arrived brand new and nicely packaged in a Saucony box. The next size up, 5 more, was packed in a bag with no box and was worn visibly on the front of both shoes. They were still small and although the size was a little better they were difficult to put on with velcro so I don't know if you can really consider them wide as described. Unfortunately they don't have this style in the next size up and I'm tired of returning them so we'll use a different brand.
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