
I got my tie for a "gothic inspired outfit". I wasn't looking to add the other accessories, but I couldn't find a non-paisley tie It could work with the vest. It is a bit stiff, so do not expect it to be an Ermenegildo Zegna or an Eton. I was able to get a decent dimple with some pulling and technic. I used the four-in-one-hand knot. I do not recommend the full Windsor, unless you are not picky.TL;DRPros: The tie worked perfectly with the outfit for a night at the bar. Was able to make a decent knot and a dimple. Satin shine that keeps people guessing.Cons: Very stiff! A bit too narrow at the top portion.

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