If you have a borderline waist size, order a size up. I usually have 34's but I went for 36's and they are tight as if they were my regular 34's. I'm athletically built and I like jeans that are a bit wider than just "straight", that's where my problems with these jeans lie. Otherwise they are worth the price, especially for the protection they offer. I bought 3DO CE 2 armor for thighs and knees. The hip pads have a nice feel but add some stiffness to the overall fit around the waist and as others have said the knee pad pockets sit low when walking but when cycling they place the pads right on your knees where they should be. If you go down now, hopefully they'll be there too. Improvements: - Baggy fit. they ride jeans, and when your "garbage" gets crushed like grapes in a wine press, it gets awkward pretty quickly. Sorry ladies for the word image. - Adjustable knee pad pocket, velcro feels nice but probably only works with certain pads, 3DO pads won't work with it. I'm sure you can change the bag to suit your needs. The back pockets can twist when wearing the jeans, which means that the hip pad can be folded down. This can be remedied with two simple stitches. Most other brands are worth the investment if you can work around the minor flaws. You can always skip the encore. I've only been wearing them for about a month, but I'm glad I have protective jeans and feel more confident in them. I'm sure there's the "perfect" pair of riding jeans out there if you're serious about spending money, but for my money they're definitely worth the investment for what you get.
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