He said they were good and worth the time I spent checking stock. I know he took them off the list but I still think they are just as good as TIN P1 but with much more bass. Not exactly the same resolution as the P1, but the P1 just has near-perfect detail extraction that's not easy to achieve even with $1,000 headphones, but these KBear Believes are a really strong contender for what you get for $200 or even want $500. There's not much else in this price range other than the ThieAudio L4, which sounds as good as I've heard. Also, my kit doesn't seem to have any quality control issues as some others have pointed out. I really hope everyone has good luck with these, they sound great. Thanks again BGGA
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